'Get rid of her': Trump reportedly called for removal of Ukraine ambassador
'Get rid of her': Trump reportedly called for removal of Ukraine ambassador
Trump impeachment: President told associates to 'get rid' of Ukraine ambassador, tapes reportedly reveal
26 January, 2020, 00:28
"Get rid of her. Get her out tomorrow".
Though Trump has repeatedly denied knowing Parnas or Fruman, he has been captured with the pair in interactions beyond the dinner, including in photos from Trump campaign rallies in 2015 and 2016 and at a White House Hanukkah party in 2018. "She wouldn't put my picture up, she was an Obama appointee I believe", he told the friendly (to him) network, defending his actions. Parnas has released multiple photographs showing him with not just Trump but his children and grandchildren.
In November, federal prosecutors questioned Bondy about whether his client had been operating on behalf of Ukrainians at the dinner with Trump when Parnas said the ambassador was bad-mouthing the President, according to people familiar with the matter. The recording appears to contradict the president's statements that he did not know Parnas, a key figure in the investigation. "I'd love to be a witness - because I'm a potential witness in the trial - and explain to everyone the corruption that I found in Ukraine, that far out-surpasses any that I've ever seen before, involving Joe Biden and a lot of other Democrats", he said Sunday morning on "The Cats Roundtable" with radio host John Catsimatidis on AM 970. Parnas appears to say: "The biggest problem there, I think where we need to start is we gotta get rid of the ambassador". "At another point, the recording appears to capture Trump praising his new choice of secretary of state, saying emphatically: "[Mike] Pompeo is the best". But Giuliani was not part of the administration, and directing him to fire the ambassador, a career foreign service official, lends credence to the charge that Trump used unorthodox, extra-constitutional means to intimate officials and opponents in the belief that the US President can do anything he wants once he is elected. Don't know what he's about, don't know where he comes from, know nothing about him.
Trump also seemed to question the USA involvement in the Korean War: "How we ever got involved in South Korea in the first place, tell me about it". Parnas and Fruman were recently indicted by the Southern District of NY on charges including conspiracy to commit campaign finance fraud. Both Parnas and Fruman were ordered to turn over Ukraine-related documents to the House impeachment investigators, but refused. They have pleaded not guilty.
Parnas had recounted the conversation in media appearances last week.
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Nunes initially denied ever speaking to Parnas, then admitted this week that he had, in fact, spoken to him on the phone. Parnas' lawyers said he had provided the documents to home investigators in response to a summons in September.
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